Russell Westbrook is now averaging a triple double again… quietly.
After grabbing 19 rebounds in the W against the Pistons last night, Westbrook is now averaging a triple double for the 4th time in 5 seasons. The season he missed out on, last year, he was with whole new team and system, where he still put up 27-8-7 on career high efficiency.
When is he going to get the respect he deserves as an all time great?
[–]ogqozo 453 指標 21 小時前
I absolutely love how the first time it happened, it was just like an earthquake every day kind of situation, every day we had a ton of threads about it and it was just one of the most exciting stories of the decade in the NBA; and when it happens the next times, it's like "yeah whatever".
[–][MIA] Dwyane WadeInPatRileyWeTrust 212 指標 18小時前
That's also because during his MVP season he was genuinely great. Since then he might rack up triple doubles but he isn't good.
[–]Tempura69 49 指標 15小時前
The more shocking stat is how does a guy who shoots 80%+ FT for 9 years now shoots 65% with less attempts.
[–]Knicksphillipjpark 505 指標 20小時前
I love Westbrook but he was definitely one of the reasons the Knicks beat them 2 times in a row. Hurts to see it, man.
[–]SpursSnuggleMuffin42 245 指標 19小時前
Every time the Thunder played us in the playoffs everybody on the Spurs thread just prayed for more Westbrook jump shots and cheered every time he tried one instead of giving the ball to KD or Ibaka or really, anybody else lol
[–]Thunderthebrodie925 150 指標 18小時前
The 2016 playoff series. Westbrook and the two bigs were the key in beating you guys in 6. We definitely needed him to be our best player against your team
[–]SpursSnuggleMuffin42 34 指標 15小時前
I said specifically jump shots. He became increasingly in love with his own shot as the year progressed, to his team's detriment except one aberration year where he shot almost in league average efficiency (his MVP season).
[–]Thunderthebrodie925 25 指標 15小時前
As a thunder fan of 13 years. I have seen this first hand numerous times of him taking too many jump shots. Still love Russ though.
[–]BullsNAMESPLISSKEN 39 指標 15小時前
My favorite Westbrook moment was in the Finals when he took more shots than the best offensive player in the game
[–]Trail BlazersENEMYAC130AB0VE 18 指標 16小時前
Same, every time we’ve ever played against Westbrook I’m begging for him to take more shots.
[–]Lakersfactcheck_ 7 指標 14小時前
Loved seeing russ take shots down the stretch of game 5 vs portland instead of pg lol. Pg gets the flak for the bad shot comment but he was on fire that game. Thank god for russ
Y'all really need to understand that Westbrook is already a first ballot Hall of Famer. Nothing that happens for the rest of his career is changing that.
[–]76ersChubbyKidBuu 61 指標 18小時前
Triple Doubles are cool but winning is cooler. His MVP season he was clutch af, outside of that…I'm good. More often then not he shoots you out of games and he sucks at defense, which is mind blowing considering how athletic he is, but I guess potential defensive rebounds are more important then staying in front of your man.
[–]CelticsRedDunce 631 指標 22小時前*
When he stops shooting his team out of games and starts meaningfully contributing to winning basketball instead of putting up GOAT tier box scores.
The carry-job he did in his MVP season was really impressive, except turns out Sabonis, and to a lesser degree Adams, and Oladipo are not trash-tier players like everybody wanted you to believe at that time.Westbrook on his salary is a huge net negative asset if you're trying to put together a championship team, so that doesn't scream "all-time great" to me.
[–][WAS] Bradley BealA2daRon 112 指標 20小時前*
Wizards are actually 12-25 with Westbrook and 4-3 without him.
[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 21 指標 15小時前
I mean they weren't trash, but Oladipo, Grant and Sabonis were absolutely not the players that they are today and pretending otherwise seems disingenuous.
[–]scuare_ 210 指標 21小時前
Everyone suspected Sabonis was going to be good, he was only traded because it was for Paul George. He was playing out of position in his ROOKIE year with the thunder because of Adams. He apparently was afraid of westbrook though so there was that.
Adams was always good, but not necessarily offensively. People already knew how good/not good he was at the time.
Oladipo got in crazy shape and took a giant leap the next year. Credited westbrook in how he learned how to train.
Grant couldn't really dribble at the time.
The most you can say is that the team was a very good defensive team. Kind of like a worse version of those AI phili teams.
[–]Lakersmarkhanna123 10 指標 19小時前
Except ai took his team to the finals and won a game against Kobe and Shaq when they were unbeatable.
2/3 of Westbrook's last playoff runs he a negative net rating and the other one isn't far behind, just saying haha. Let's not compare Westbrook and AI
[–]Lakersawesomobeardo 61 指標 19小時前
AI took that team to the finals on a significantly weaker conference. I don't think that's a valid point against Westbrook.
[–]General1lol 16 指標 16小時前
That East was pretty weak and those 76ers had the COTY, DPOY, and 6MOTY.
[–]Minneapolis LakersPardonme23 1 指標 16小時前
Awards are narrative bs. I guarantee you shaq was better defensively than mutombo.
[–]jf45 16 指標 15小時前
This is kind of a wild take. Deke is a 4x DPOY. He was a little older but still an all-time defensive player which Shaq was definitely not, especially in 2001 where he took a significant step back compared to the previous year.
Westbrook is amazing at shooting his team out of games but it's ok because he gets lots of uncontested rebounds. Let's not forget this amazing stretch of 3 consecutive playoff games he had as the reigning MVP:
Game 2 vs Utah: 7/19 shooting, scoreless fourth.
Game 3 vs Utah: 5/17 shooting, 14 points, 8 turnovers.
Game 4 vs Utah: 7/18 shooting, 5 turnovers.
He then came out with vengeance the next season against Lillard.
Game 2 vs Portland: 5/20 shooting, 14 points, 6 turnovers.
Game 4 vs Portland: 5/21 shooting, 14 points.
Game 5 vs Portland: 11/31 shooting, 5 turnovers.
[–]RocketsbyRockets 28 指標 19小時前
Wait till you see his 2020 bubble performance
[–]Trail Blazersirelli 101 指標 21小時前
That 11/31 game is impressively bad
He missed more shots than every other player on the thunder combined
In a 3 point loss at that. Everyone else was amazing. Dude singlehandedly lost the series that game
[–]vonnegutcheck 44 指標 20小時前
Every time Westbrook gets criticized, his fans whine about "analytics ruining the game."
Analytics aside. Have you ever played a lot with a really ball-dominant guard? When they're great it works, but if they're anything less than great, everybody else is just kind of standing around and not getting into the flow of things. There's a reason Dipo/Grant/Sabonis didn't take their leaps playing with Russ, and it's not all random chance. Russ gets assists, but he doesn't maximize the players he plays with, and the fact that they didn't get a chance to develop should be more of a knock against him than it is.
Imagine the OKC team from his MVP year with say, Kyle Lowry at the helm. Lowry wouldn't have averaged a triple double, but I'd bet that Dipo/Sabonis/Grant all would have looked better and the team would have been just about as good then and would be better now.